We have a quiet conversation about who is going to win today. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. JavaScript is disabled. Ive done so much and been so many places that I mostly have all of them embedded in my head. Whilst im not Carltons biggest fan (prefer Backstead w Harmon) I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. De Gendt, Volta 2019 Stage 1 winner. So, what is Scottish Cycling / British Cycling doing about this? Please enter your email so we can keep you updated with news, features and the latest offers. But he's British and that's all that matters to Kirby. Live blog: "outrageous claims" - Tao Geoghegan Hart lays into Eurosport commentator Carlton Kirby, cyclists blamed for countryside litter - Twitter responds, Colnago e-bike, Jason Kenny, Jeremy Vine on close-passes, TdY teams, Peloton baby + more. It is just crazy the amount of automotive stuff on the go, whether that is cars or motorcycles, that are getting too close to the riders, too often. They seem to think that it is enough to just talk about english speaking riders, or to 'emote' any time there is a crash, or a difficult corner. Utterly self-absorbed: he had already decided who'd won. Log in or register to join the conversation. COME ON WRITE TO EUROSPORT AND LETS GET HIM OFF ! you can't have it on while doing other things and then return to the screen when it gets interesting because by the time Kirby has noticed many minutes will have passed. You have got to be kidding! There must be so many ex-pro riders out there who would give valuable commentary and insight into the races. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. He is thinking of five wins, and is finally allowing himself to believe he is going to reach the all-time record of the Belgian all-rounder Eddy Merckx's record for stage wins of 34. . Kirby is a shockingly bad commentator, but Harmon is not much better. Kittel threw his arms up in the air, and lost not only first place, but second, third and fourth..winding up in fifth because of his complaints. Eurosport is a group of pay television networks in Europe and parts of Asia. and clearly was totally clueless. Owned by Warner Bros. Marcel Kittel gesticulates as Mark Cavendish wins stage 14 of the Tour de France ahead of Peter Sagan, Stage six finish: Cavendish edges Kittel again in thrilling finale, WATCH: Moment Cavendish finds out he has won. I comfort myself with the fact that there are people out there who actually hate Terry Wogan. Its a massive operation. From wrestling with sound walls, coping with dropped audio, working with Sean Kelly and deciphering the Kirby CODEC, we caught up with Kirby midway through the raceto getan insight into life on Tour as a commentator. And to be honest, most of us are scared of losing Carlton Kirkby in case Ant McCrossan takes his place. All of this stuff adds to the vrit of the broadcast, and its stuff you cannot get in a studio in London. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. Even my partner, who doesn't watch cycling, could tell who had won. and apologises to those who don't. 00:04:00, 29/05/2020 at 08:52 Related Tao Geoghegan Hart (@taogeoghegan) March 25, 2019. VN:What do you talk about differently when youre in the studio? Ill be making notes when Sean Kellys driving, which can be a difficult thing! Cycling is a sport where there are no time limits and there are no constant action-packed sequences to speak about. After a long journeyback to the hotel, often punctuated by Kelly taking media calls especially on the stages he himself would have thrived on during his career its then a debrief over dinner and back to bed for a seven-hour sleep and restarting the process again the next day. See the recording of the last Carlton Kirby Zoomcast hereEnjoy our vintage/summer Parisian Spotify playlist (plus Little Italy by Stephen Bishop, not French, don't write in) hereSee Carlton's It's their commentators or silence. Also add in several alert mobile keyholders. There is absolutely no deficit of distractions for a commentator. As for the Sky Team Fans member - you wouldnt actually be Mr Kirby would you ???? I've been told to stop having a go at the motorcycles, but it is purely from a safety aspect and sadly this poor guy, who was very a vibrant talent at the age of only 25, has lost his life. After moving to 30 Tour de France stage wins with four rousing victories that has shattered Marcel Kittel on this year's Tour, Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby tells Desmond Kane why he . Now it is live pictures going onto blogs, stream TV pictures. What blasphemy is this? Kirby remarks, Its not like a written press where you can write something out and finesse it and shave it. There used to be a 35 metre rule which seems to be flouted these days. In the early 1990's he became a freelance commentator. I think people will appreciate what were trying to deal with. Also, Kirby criticises riders in almost every race. Me too. Brentford today angry guy in grey car can't see why he should wait till it's safe to overtake hoots horn, shouts abuse and 100 yards later I'm in front again anyway. Every time she fought back from a coma we were warned. And yet, love him or loathe him, Kirbys voice is as intrinsically linked to the Tour de France, for Eurosport viewers at least, as other famous voices across the sporting spectrum. One example of his commentary, from 11/3/21 Tirreno-Adriatico: Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'. Without wishing to be too disparaging to Mr. Kirby, I dont have Eurosport or the ability to watch cycling live, so I have to make do with highlights. Tom Owen vents his fury after cycling blogger highlights verbal abuse on Box Hill, Geraint Thomas returns as domestique in experienced nine-man line-up, Summit finishes dominate opening fortnight with potentially pivotal time trial in final week, The best of the gear that's dropped into RCUK over the last couple of weeks, One carbon bike and two alloy models for 2016 'cross campaign from Chain Reaction Cycles' in-house bike brand. It is not just the press core looking for pictures for the following day. Eurosport will never get rid of Carlton Kirby, he receives so much fan-mail that it will far out way any negative feedback they get from him. Fully agree Kirby is the most irritable commentator ever. Not much love for Eurosport commentator Carlton Kirby amongst the Team Sky ranks it seems Air pollution: London mother launches petition for second inquest into daughter''s death, Jason Kenny recounts last months near miss on BBC TV, Yoann Offredo's condition described as not life-threatening after GP de Denain crash, Telegraph article suggests "Littering cyclists and joggers could be to blame for countryside rubbish problem", Jeremy Vine's latest unpleasant encounter, 'Youths on pedal cycles' help Wednesfield Police catch thief, Best Cycling Website, BikeBiz Awards 2018, Tao Geoghehan Hart (picture copyright Simon Wilkinson, SWPix.com via Britishcycling.org_.uk), "Looks like shit. You take yourself to the studio, call up your procyclingstats.com, do your research online. Among the big names the Belgian put time into today were Alejandro Valverde, fourth overall and 2 minutes 56 second down in fourth place overall, and Team Skys Egan Bernal, a further 1 second back. Those are definitely the days when you earn your corn. At dinner, you gather around the table and argue the hell out of it, and thats a big thing. As for Kirby - its the arrogance of the bloke - does he think his viewers are 10 year olds who know NOTHING about cycling. 2008present unless otherwise stated. And suddenly some feel like a part of the race. But saves my life" German governments helmet advert sparks sexism row, - Sir Gary Verity steps down from Welcome to Yorkshire for health reasons after "errors of judgement" with his expenses, -Bristol taxi driver who cut up cyclist and braked in front of him has licence revoked (+ video), -Porn Pedallers to carry on riding despite being stripped of British Cycling affiliation. Some pros think so, plus more tech news from Shimano, Zwift, Le Col, Dahon, Fairlight + more, Pick-up truck driver crashes into group of cyclists, leaving two dead and 11 injured. They have produced some merchandise like cycling caps and badges, they get together at Carltons events. Nah, Harmon is clued up. It just stays online forever. The Wanty-GroupeGobert rider was air lifted to hospital after the crash yesterday, but thankfully it seems like he's in a stable condition. He has been commentating on the Tour de France since 2009, and his deep knowledge of the race and the riders makes him one of the most respected commentators in the sport. Discovery company. "In tennis you never talk through a point because the crowd don't. In certain sports, you have to respect the action, and then you comment on it. 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If you're after one, guess that does makethe two grand plus 40 quid a month price tag seem a little fairer A mother from London has launched a petition calling for a second coroner's inquest into the death of her daughter, who passed away at nine years of age in what was originally believed to be an asthma-related case. His voice tends to wake me up from my nap when something happens. Its windowless. Let us know what you think in the comments. Star names like Sagan getting knocked off and knocked out of races. You can get every picture you need from in front of the peloton. Maybe it's because he doesn't ride a bike himself? VN:What difference will people notice in this years Tour broadcast from a normal year, when you and your team are on-site? Kirby continues to put his notes togetheronce hearrives at the commentary booth, reading the local press andKellys grasp of colloquial French coming into its own. Baseless. Mrs John Murphy May 3, 2010 2,662 0 0 Aug 26, 2011. Dan's stage guides at the giro a few years ago were great. Help us to make it better. Can you imagine Paris-Roubaix with Kirby commentating? Kittel is still the fastest guy out there, but when he turns on the taps there is going to be a point when his maximum capacity starts to diminish. The actual bones of the job are quite similar. And alongside everything going on in his ear and on the screens in front of him, Kirby says the booths themselves can be a sourceof distraction from the job of commentating. Info-wise, being on-site is amazing.. The races are only on GCN/Eurosport. The major problem with this is that you cannot follow a race he is commentating on unless you are watching it - i.e. And somebody asked me, why dont you pronounce his name Foo-gel-sang instead ofFoolsong. Theyre the best stages, and the most exciting ones, but often as a commentator the days you take the most pride in are actually the ones where absolutely sod all has happened! You have to say who they are, where they are on the road, what colour theyre in and call the tactics and often all within 30-45 seconds of sheer hell and manic action. You must invest in an alarm upgrade to BT Redcare. So many other cycling commentators on Eurosport. I can walk or drive the technical approach to the finish, which is gold. Kirbys Knowledge and Enthusiasm on the Mic is Unparalleled, When Kirby explains the difficult process of commentating on cycling, Michael Matthews powers to Bretagne Classic victory, Bora-hansgrohe riders false positive raises new doubts over accuracy of COVID-19 testing, Giro dItalia, Milan-San Remo under threat of cancellation due to coronavirus, Ewan storms to victory on stage 2 of UAE Tour. I just wish we had Liggett and Kelly doing the Grand Tours. And then, of course, there are the flat stages and the sprint finishes. UPDATE: New online Zoomcast show, July 16, click through for tickets. You always get letters or emails from people who really enjoyed your commentary, but youll always get those who hate every fibre of your being.. Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'. We dont want this man commentating. theres nowhere like ENOUGH cycling on tv. This afternoon, I yet again, tolerated his insulting drivel on the Dauphine. I've decided and bought a '21 Revolt which is nigh on identical in stack and reach to the Defy, only differences being a slacker front end and Well if you ever go to Chesterfield you will be called "youth" however old you are. Having spent over 25 years in the field, he has seen a lot, as many other countless commentators have seen. People were saying track preparation knocks you back for the sprint because it is a different form of physicality that is needed. Cookies help us deliver our services. Tech, reviews: tech [at] road.cc pic.twitter.com/RRu5rosVP4, Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) March 24, 2019, This time it's a driver who doesn't get the concept of taking the lane (and is caught soon after he risks an overtake on the clogged up London street anyway), Yesterday officers were helped by youths on pedal cycles & many other members of public in catching a thief (300 theft) from Bentley Bridge who security were chasing for a while. But I do allow people to believe Im always on-site. Of all the criticisms that can be leveled at him (not recognising riders, not admitting he doesn't recognise a rider), being only interested in angolophone riders isn't one of them. My Ultimate Commuter, rebuilding her at the moment, everything external. I like Kelly just out of respect more than anything. For god's sake grow up the man's just doing his job some of it good, some of it bad Is it my imagination or has there been more talk about commentators than cycling on here recently? The Tour de Suisse is traditionally one of the last big races before the Tour de France. You get the atmosphere and emotion of a place. Eurosport is transmitting the same amount of races as any standard european tv channel - go to Italy where it is their number 2 sport next to football - they dont struggle for professional sports commentators. I remember being impressed during the Giro at his ability to identify riders. Your Tour de France telecastwill look the same this year, but it may feel somewhat different. I think there seems to be a bad feeling against cyclists and its really strange because theyre only people, he continued. So, you have to ask yourself: What is different, and why is it worth it to actually go on-site? No ! but the bike was nowhere to be found!" Eurosport commentator. I tweeted quite a few comments which clearly annoyed him. Twaddle. Its that melting pot of information that you get on-site. This person has obviously just seen red, Ive got right of way, Im going to go, and you might have right of way technically whether you do or dont is often debatable but it doesnt give you the right to smash someone and potentially kill someone, which is what is going to happen if you run someone off their bike. Shouldnt be that hard to organise with so many people here able to talk eloquently and intelligently for 4 hours. I can get caught out, particularly if theres a crash in the last three kilometres, because that can animate the tempo even more and I have to keep something in reserve for the sprint finish. At Eurosport, because the producer maynot necessarily be listening to the Englishcommentary, theyll be occasions when I goto Sean and say, so what do you think of Sagan? and hell start mulling it over and responding and then all of a sudden well get a producing lining up a cue pointin his ear, and hell have to switch from his usual, slow voice to speaking very quickly and wrapping up his point in five seconds for no apparent reason to the viewer. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" And anybody who has watched one unfold on TV will recognise the frantic speed of the commentary as the race reaches its climax. There are already calls for a convening of UCI protocol committee so they can start to get some proper rules together about it. The moment you have spoken a word, it is out there on tape and on every news website, forum, and who knows what. While folk littering with gel wrappers is no doubt annoying, is it really up there with fly-tipping? I would rather have the sound off than listen to his pathetic attempts to link words and phrases together rather than comment on the racing (as opposed to being able to identify riders) about which he knows precious little. Tech in brief: new gear from Shimano, Park Tool, Wahoo and more Tech in brief: new gear from Shimano, Park Tool, Wahoo, Tortec and more Vitus launch three bikes for cyclo-cross season. Ive now just watched the end of Milan-Sanremo again: Aranburu wasnt in the first group behind Morhoric, so he literally couldnt have come higher than 10th. ), there is a thread in the. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. Mark is already the greatest sprinter there has ever been. Harmon LOVES cycling, cycling history, and even riders who don't speak English. But, Kirby has to do that, without fail. Colnago is using social media to tease the arrival of its new E64 Performance, which well go out on a limb and guess is the companys attempt to tap into the rapidly growing e-bike market. carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021; carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021. I do love the sport because its a crescendo sport. Helen Blackman (@HelenBlackman) March 24, 2019. His knowledge of most non-english speaking riders can be written on the back of a postage stamp, with the exception of 'famous' foreigners like the Schlecks, Dertie Cont, Cancellera and after this spring Gilbert. In the mountains, when you have say four significant peaks to climb, the day tells itself and often all you have to do is call it as it happens. VN:So, what really is gained by being on-site? We get to see our own output with our team interviewing the riders. Especially on the downhill runs which is a crazy situation. You have your usual office equipment, coffee machine, and sandwich machine. In the early 1990s he became a freelance commentator. I don't know the guy but I wish in netherlands we would do it with mart smeets, danny nelissen and herbert dijkstra, who are complete idiots. To cycling fans, Carlton Kirbys voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosports racecoverage. Theres so much stuff going on because in front of us for starters, we have live timing, results sheets, stage profiles, live pictures, alternative live pictures and a sub-monitor with the schedule. Carlton Kirby is one of the successful names in the industry, recently had been a topic of gossip for good and bad reasons. CK:Ive been doing bike races live and on-site since 1996. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport . join Outside+. Its not something thats learned, or something you can prepare for. hatcher - are you Harmon's mum? Whether they be dusty in the summer or wet in the winter, motorcycles are far too dangerous and get far too close to the bikes. Hence, To be qualified to fill up that huge amount of time is, quite naturally, a daunting job. Whenever I watch an anglophone stream online because there is no other way for me to watch a race I have to think of the HIMYM episode where Barney goes to get Robin from Canada and, looking at the "funny" Canadian dollars, says: "It's like you want us to make fun of you". As we reported at the time, the six-time Olympic champion tweeted that he had been on a Sunday bike ride with his son when they were almost run over by a van driver who drove at us, then proceeded to angrily inform me it was my fault we nearly died.. Commentating during the 2022 Ronde with 222km to go, Kirby says: Aranburu could have finished as high as 5th in Milan-Sanremo, but didnt think it was worth his while so he eased off at the end and came in 13th. Can you at least extend our premium subscriptions so we can play all races, until you fix the issue? By using this website, you agree to our use of cookies. Discovery through its international sports unit, it operates two main channels Eurosport 1 and Eurosport 2 across most of its territories, and streams on Discovery+, which superseded Eurosport Player. Story Time with Carlton Kirby: Mankini's and mechanicals | "The pictures were all over the news. Ineos Grenadiers has to try and win the Tour de France, says Steve Cummings, Tour de France: Yates, Groenewegen, Matthews a possible three-pronged approach for BikeExchange, Jumbo-Visma keeps everyone guessing with Tour de France and Giro dItalia leadership question, Former Zwift academy winner Tanja Erath calls time on road career with mental struggles, Garmin Gravel Worlds introduces pro categories and a donation-based prize pool, UCI gravel worlds, a threat or an opportunity? Carlton Kirby pete54 Posts: 488 March 2014 edited October 2019 in Pro race For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? "Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis," Carlton Kirby tells Betway in a recent interview, one of the principal commentators for Eurosport's cycling coverage, who has served in the sport since 1996. CK:As a commentator, you dont have a great deal of contact with the riders. Where is the central body that has its own rules of discipline and rules of engagement that respect distance protocol and passing protocol under the race director? When Kirby explains the difficult process of commentating on cycling, and the concerns he has, one might want to know how much of that impacts him. And, one can understand the enthusiasm that has kept him going despite the setbacks and even criticism from people. To my mind, the motorcycles are the most dangerous because they have the least ability to stop. They basically work on the principle that people watching cycling in english are only interested in english speaking riders. James and Joe catch up with the chosen son of cycling commentary, Carlton Kirby. Among an awful lot of distractions, as Carlton Kirby explains, commentating on cycling is an arduous process. We saw that on the Tour of Catalunya - a useless piece of motorcycle protocol. From dealing with the never-ending frenzy of action, and incessant radio announcements, to having to tackle the director. There are several fan forums that constantly try to have him removed from Eurosport and even made a Carlton Kirby petition their demands on the grounds of inane chatter, terrible jokes, and unnecessary screaming. In their eyes, he is one of the worst cycling commentators. This is the video I showed Trinity School in Lewisham this morning. Valverde gets it very, very wrong!" exclaimed . Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. To know that, you simply have to do a Google Search and you will know why. My primary issue with Carlton Kirby is that he doesn't commentate on what is happening (he rambles whatever is inside his head). Thomas De Gendt launched a solo attack from the break with 60 kilometres remaining of todays opening stage of the Volta a Catalunya, covering 163 kilometres and starting and finishing in Calella and the Lotto-Soudal rider now finds himself with a lead of almost three minutes on his rivals. We have to get him off eurosport. On the descent, motorbikes often get too close to the cyclist in front of them. Arriving at road.cc in 2017 via 220 Triathlon Magazine, Jack dipped his toe in most jobs on the site and over ateBikeTips before being namedthe new editor of road.cc in 2020, much to his surprise. A new bike is coming very soon! You are calling the race as you see it on the screen. Eurosport cant get away with this !! ). I've also been known to drag washing machines behind the bike and throw them down embankments, along with piles of grass clippings, black bags of household rubbish and several hubcaps. Carlton's voice is familiar to fans of Motorsports and Cycling both on British Television and throughout the world. You could hear a pin drop. Carlton Kirby and His Approach On Commenting for GCN and Eurosport This Year: While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. You can do that by clicking one of these links - TAKES 30 SECONDS: https://help.eurosport.com/hc/en-gb/requests/new, https://help.globalcyclingnetwork.com/hc/en-gb/requests. It is not just the motocycles remember. (Clarke is a very good rider, but there is nothing to suggest he SHOULD have won the 2016 M-SR. Watch the race.). Thanks to all who have signed. Yates ended up going out the back of the peloton, losing 1.22.