She's interviewed several Star Trek . What? For what its worth Picard has an excellent cast, male and female, it just feels they are one or two notches above their discovery peers, maybe again due to writing/direction. You know, like a psychotic murderer? So many reasons to be critical of Disco plot holes, awful sense of morals, missed opportunities, etc. Good for her, and I love the character! Tons do, yes. And a. Lwaxana Troi, Tilly is frankly nowhere near as annoying as those other characters. PS. Everybody loves is an idiom, it should never be taken as a strict statement. I dont think Tilly is ruined. In every real-life Trekkie community Im a part of, as well as most online, shes loved. Its not celebrating obesity to say that her body is her business and nobody elses. Fortunately, more than 30 years ago I was encouraged to focus on the health aspects of eating well and training hard and not the aesthetics. Against all odds, shes in Starfleet and thriving. Shes fantastic and looks fantastic doing it! Whether you choose to believe it or not, youre actually part of the problem. Thats just a matter of preference. After his first episode or two, I was done with Barclay and was frustrated when he came back, and especially when he showed up on Voyager. Just IMHO, because to each his (or her, or their) own! The 60s/70s are gone. Good points. It was a novelty in his first story and they turned it on its head when he got zapped and made super-smart, but most of the time hes very trying, especially when he gets thrown onto Voyager. But to play the Devils Advocate here for a moment Tilly as she was originally presented and continued to be for quite some time is not something most women would aspire to be I should think. If there had been a believable logical progression from Cadet Tilly in season 1 to Starfleet Academy instructor in season 4, where they had built up the character to where she shed bits and pieces of the awkwardness as she became more confident in her abilities. lol ;). She makes it all look so easy. In fact most iterations of Trek the actors have provided a neutral delivery of their native accent. The show will roll out on Paramount Plus in the US, and is expected to stream on Netflix elsewhere. I have this image in my head of the EPs saying to Mack that theyd like species that havent been main characters in other shows and asking him to give a list of options for a big and strong species, a species without a bianary gender etc. A statistical average does not justify shaming or ridiculing anyone. That finale appearance was basically a cameo. Like damn the guy's 90 ffs give him a break. Thats the whole point why they wanted HER to teach at the newly formed Academy They wanted someone with the original 23rd century optimism and enthusiasm I share that notion a lot And yeah, Im glad Starfleet doesnt work like actual military, And no, S3 was not stupidity. As long as the stories remain laser-focused on the *people* their *relationships* and the *emotions* generated therein, instead of ships, gadgets, and effects, well be fine. First of all, because theres more options for cosplay now, because she changed her hair. However, with the successive changes in show runners the coherence of Burnhams development has been lost. I always have to correct it, so its not terribly efficient. Therefore, I love her. The U.S.S. His Voyager appearances were also horrid. I never thought of Adira as being all that similar, but I see your point. Mary Wiseman as Tilly in episode 402, Anomaly. I hope that Wiseman uses that info into the future because it does work for fat burning and muscle building. Because she symbolizes the Trekkies, geeks, nerds. Shaming is one thing. I think the CW has been using something like this for years. Hey writers room go back to TNG and see how a child became an honourary bridge officer on the Enterprise D. (something equally puzzling to say the least) Picard did it because the Traveller who could traverse space time and see the future and past told Picard it was extremely important to encourage the boy. Eh, only in some particular parts of the internet. Since season one, Tilly (Mary Wiseman). For people who dont know, it had to do with Voyager leading a fleet of ships going back to the Delta Quadrant a few years after Voyager arrived home. Theres a little Harley Quinn. That could explain the weight gain. But its at least nice they came to their senses with that ridiculous story turn (unlike Kirk). For your own good, please seek help. For me, generally speaking, when Barclay or Trois mom appeared it signaled a terrible episode in advance. Picard is the third Kurtzman Production. Its really just certain comments sections and Facebook garbage holes. So I think we pick up with her after some time has passed since the events of that season, but shes still sort of not really sure what to make of it, and everything that used to be really comfortable isnt sitting as comfortably as it used to if that makes sense. And tons dont. A rare, successful example of this is James Gunns Guardians otG and Suicide Squad, in which a similar premise is treated comedically yet with a touch of sincerity, so as not to devolve into outright farce. It doesnt matter either way but with so much Voyager mythology created in those novels, it would be cool to see some of it translated on this show! Heck I think it was more unrealistic when some chick was upset he wasn't ready for sex. Typical. 89. And, in that sense, it is okay to be used as it was above. Its gotten very stale now. Tilly is Trekdom. Thank you for your counter opinion. Just like every other character in a show that generally is badly written. My point is, a lot of the shamers are probably ashamed of themselves for being overweight and project it onto others. I look at Disco as adding a new flavor to the existing universe. The reed-thin part sometimes involves unhealthy behaviors. So it has been hard, and its really hard to avoid, because it pops up on all the [social media] accounts, or people comment on my posts with cruel, unscientific comments. That sucks, but that is just the way it goes. ;). After they wrote her to be the most annoying person possible. Shes a geeky, nerdy character, so wonderfully over the top, like so many of us in the fandom. She hasnt mentored anyone except in one episode. And Kirsten Beyer probably consults on that show too along with her duties on Picard and Discovery, so its possible at least. And I belong., After reading the Forbes article, Wiseman got some backup from someone who knows what its like to be a woman in the captains chair: Kate Mulgrew, who thinks Mary is killing it on Discovery and should pay the haters no mind., I saw the @Forbes article on Mary Wiseman @may_wise clearly killing it onscreen & off in #StarTrekDiscovery. She wrote ten books based around this concept and still writing them. Oh, I think its fine they had a counselor on the SHIP; I just think its weird they had her on the BRIDGE. She hopped over those 900 years. In CanadaDiscoveryis broadcast on CTV Sci-Fi Channel and streams on Crave. The message she is sending how? In general, the Litverse kicks off with the TNG A Time to series that fills in events between the movies Insurrection and Nemesis. It was EXACTLY what I needed while mourning my own mother. 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I know most dont share my opinon that after a terrible first half of S1, I have generally liked Discovery but making Tilly first officer was quite possibly the most ridiculous plot twist in the history of Trek. Harry wasnt annoying. I guess making Tilly first officer isnt anywhere close to ridiculous as making KT Kirk a Captain who was still a cadet and had probably spent 2 weeks in space before he got the jobbut its pretty damn close. The following contains spoilers from Star Trek: Discovery's Season 4 finale. I think Saru holds out as being the most consistent, and Tilly is close, but not quite. Book is Han Solo. Did Tilly on Discovery gain weight? You know what, fvck you, Vulcan Soul. Mary Wiseman is confirmed to return as Sylvia Tilly in Star Trek: Discovery season 5, although whether she rejoins the crew or continues at Starfleet Academy and only interjects occasionally remains unknown. Sharing? The Enterprise D was the only place we saw a councelor. He was non-military, the same height as me, and easily weighed 300#. I want to really like Discovery, I do. I suppose thats why some places are rising and others are very visibly in decline. Keep up the great work ladies! Saying that its the job of actors to tell people whats healthy and whats not is the problem, not a solution. The only writers they need are people who can polish it up enough so that you cant tell its machine-written. And now, with only three years under her belt in the field, only two of which were as a ranked officer, they think shes somehow ready to train the next generation of recruits?! I have to agree. As an officer shes supposed to be leader. For someone who is supposed to care about others, shes been remarkably stuck in her own emotions. These are not well-written or well-acted characters, and they weaken the series every time they show up. I originally was skeptical but then I turned around in season 1 and really started enjoying it. Actress Mary Wiseman did a series of media . Too nervous and anxious. Well, Renos really more engineering. That sort of thing contributes to some pretty hardcore dysmorphia sure, they are famous and have luxuries and money so many of us dont, but hearing stories like how Carrie Fisher was told she should lose weight to be able to reprise Leia, or how Kumail Nanjani is scarily fixated on his physical appearance now is sad. Just when it looks like the character has finally grown as a person and doing her own thing, comes right back. And for your own gain, right? Yes I forgot David Mack is a consultant on this show too and is well aware of all the post-Nemesis stories in the novels. There are characters you really cherish and others that are fun but ultimately nothing special. The accent is too colloquial. But then again Im not a troll. Paramount+'s Star Trek: Discovery is the flagship of the modern-day Star Trek television franchise, premiering in 2017 and about to launch its fourth season on November 18. I wonder if there is any news that she might be pregnant. Not sure what her weight has to do with anything. Two Kelpians and a Disco Kenny (Zero Kelpians were harmed during this shoot. Should the nice girl get off your lawn? We have both Mary Wiseman and Sonequa Martin-Green talking about body issues, Kate Mulgrew jumping in too, and some more behind-the-scenes photos. I mean, it was just so fun! As someone with severe and sometimes crippling anxiety whos managed to have a pretty successful high-pressure career, I question your assertion that she never would have graduated Starfleet., You clearly never served in a military environment. Paradise was most likely referring to the shows production and creative teams. That way she wont get the appearance she does now of jumping over more experienced officers and seeming to just get ahead because shes Sarus favorite. I did, though. Diplomacy? I agree 100%. So I think Tilly definitely goes to employ those skills. Just more pandering. Tilly accepts herself but she rises to challenges, leads in a crisis, is there for her friends but still explores what she wants for *herself*, and mentors others to help them grow! Season four of Star Trek: Discovery arrives on Thursday, November 18 on Paramount+. Most actresses on TV, if theyre 58 probably weigh 120# or less. Cant believe people are so rude as to insult anyone because they dont look the way they expect. She also revealed some of her inspirations for this version of Tilly: There is a little Azula from Avatar: The Last Airbender in there. The show had its official opening on Monday, March 21st, and is currently set to run through April 24. I dont love her the way I love Saru or Pike, or Janeway or Seven or Picard or Spock. You made very good points and I do agree. Plenty of curvy ladies are quite healthy and active. Although criticism of a performance is valid (Burnhams whispering, over emoting etc.) In her interview with TrekMovie last week, Discovery co-showrunner Michelle Paradise echoed these sentiments: Well never be done with Tilly. And it could fit nicely with Chakotays story on the show and that hes also in the DQ for the mission and now has to find the ship. In season one and early season two, I was finding it credible as a case of someone who had unresolved PTSD and was unmoored from the culture that had encouraged her to supress her trauma. Not everyone is skinny and not everyone likes skinny. Good for Mary! I think the character would have been much better served if Tillys quirks were something that changed as the character grew over the seasons. That said, the stolid approach to characterization has its benefits as well when an emotional outburst happens it can be devastating (see: Picards breakdowns in the likes of Family, Chain of Command, First Contact), but it also allows for subtler moments to have outsized impacts (Odo asking Garak to breakfast, Seven revealing her favorite color, Picards 1/4 smiles when no one is looking, Spocks eyebrow etc), which is also quite true to life. Mary Wiseman as Captain Killy in Terra Firma, Part 2. In the latest Star Trek: Discovery episode, Sylvia Tilly ( Mary Wiseman) was tasked with . Thank you, Trek Movie Staff, for sharing my interview with your readers and providing a link to Forbes.com! I think Mary is doing a fantastic job as isSonequa, Their characters are fantastic as are all the others. But my point was that she rarely conveyed anything useful or something that was not already obvious to all. Actually, the production team is not helping either. That however does nothing to mitigate the way Burnham has been written to be unforgivably self-absorbed throughout many of the key moments of the series. But the nu left that this show panders to cant accept any opinion that isnt in agreement with it so they try to immediately invalidate it. She is most recognized for her roles in the science fiction drama series Star Trek: Discovery on Paramount+, where she first played Cadet, then Ensign, and finally . I think that in a world thats so repressed and violent, violence becomes these peoples only outlet for pleasure and release. Right? I wasnt complaining there were therapists on board. Mary Wiseman. The doctor was usually the therapist. Well, its certainly a good thing that Tilly is a fictional character, and neither she nor the woman who plays her (Wiseman) is in todays real-world Navy.. And I want to take care of me so I can continue to be me. Rumors started when some problematic fans of Star Trek Discovery found out that she gained a few pounds between the seasons. After Burnham (Sonequa Martin-Green) and Tilly (Mary Wiseman) journey to a planet alongside Burnham's mother Gabrielle (Sonja Sohn), things get a little hairy when the Qowat Milat nun they're . I would encourage her to do the same. What do you mean? How is she supposed to sound considering nobody knows what people in the 23rd century will talk like? "Hope springs eternal" was the central thesis for Star Trek: Discovery's Season 4 finale . Overcome her issues. However, we do know that David Mack does. That is assuming the this Starfleet Academy show is set in the 32nd century. It just really doesnt fit in this show however. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. Speaking to Glamour UK, Sonequa Martin-Green revealed that she has dealt with body image issues too: Back in the mid-to-late eighties, early nineties, everything I saw, with hip hop, was all curvy, curvy, big butt, she recalls. And the only family she has is on that ship. Im relieved to say I have no idea how that feels, and its something I cant even stomach thinking about, frankly. If that happens, I'm betting she'll be a part of it. Why is that a command level position? Even though she's still in the final season of Starfleet Aacademy studies She was assigned to the USS Discovery to get some practical experience. All Access Star Trek Podcast, Discovery, DS9, Lower Decks, Section 31, Star Trek 4, Star Trek: Picard, Star Trek: Prodigy, Strange New Worlds. Unity? I notice that for whatever reason certain words will trigger the language to switch to French on my phone, and then I have to go back and correct everything. . Just blows my mind. Thematic darkness is fine but graphic visuals arent. TrekMovie.com is not endorsed, sponsored or affiliated with CBS Studios Inc., Paramount Pictures Corp. or the Star Trek franchise. Seasons one through three are available to stream now on CBS All Access. With his skill and abilities, we will see how he may use them in a way that may affect his relationship with Michael Burnham. So, although he does the occasional guest star role in other shows produced in Canada, he could take on a larger role on Discovery. . Im reaally hoping season 4 will be smoother, Im holding thumbs here. I think Mary is amazingly pretty and has absolutely nothing to worry about in terms of her figure. Do you see that tension? The last novel just came out last year (where does she find the time lol). What tradition do you speak of? Tilly, played by Mary Wiseman on Star Trek Discovery is not pregnant. No one can argue that Shatner is anything less than fit at whatever age. Im sure many may NOT be a Janeway but could at least look at her and say thats what I aspire to be. And its funny that you bring up needing constant therapy as a bad thing when a ton of real life people see a therapist on a regular basis. Just take a little trip down the hellhole that is a tabloids message boards and youll see the kind of body shaming of male and female actors and celebrities that exists out there. Proceed accordingly. Obligatory mention of the stupid turbolifts and how dumb they are. Episodes will be. Finally, Starfleet isn't a military organisation or an army. Control over ones own body is the most basic freedom we should have. Its intolerance in its most basic form, and anyone who engages in, advocates for, or turns a blind eye and deaf ear to it are examples of the worst humanity has to offer, and most certainly have no business calling themselves a Star Trek fan. That being said, knowing what weight restrictions there are for men and women serving avoid combat ships in todays Navy, my bet would be she would need to lose some weight to preserve her shipboard assignment in todays real-world Navy. Keep up with theStar Trek Universe at TrekMovie.com. Everyone has their gifts. Then maybe I would actually remember his name! In season three Tilly was first officer and then acting captain; how does all of that affect who she is in season four? Its her, Adira, Stamets, and Reno who are the really hard science people. All those wonderful things that dont make you a good human being. It is also available on Netflix in 190 countries around the world. During the 1st season, Michael helped Tilly to gain confidence and then continued to nurture that confidence through . As an actor of 20 years myself I can say for SMG that her acting ability is affected by her accent and delivery due to her accent . While not getting specific about if or where we will see Tilly again, Wiseman also hinted the finale was not the end of her story: Tilly is not somebody who lets people leave her life. And another way to look at it: at least its not another hour of tv taken by a reality show, right? But respect is always earned and never enforceable. David Ajala: I think its made Cleveland Booker even more attracted to Michael Burnham because I think he looks and goes Oh, scrumptious. What was your point to this comment, anyway, except to minimize and dismiss support for plus-size women? Sure, its not perfect, we all have a nitpick here and there, but as long as it has a message, it revolves around people, and some cool science stuff, its trek to me. Theres a difference between celebrating obesity and accepting individual human beings, treating them as human beings, and not targeting them specifically for emotional harassment. She cant control her weight. Smart doesnt mean competent. Tillys character arc was mishandled once they realized Mary Wiseman was cast (Marys a decade or more older than Tilly). Shes a little overweighed, so what? Im not the idiot fringe but her weight is none of our business (and, also, she had a baby before S3, I believe). I expect that well have her in the world and all of those things. So smart in the Starfleet tradition. Thats undeniable. I dont believe any of the other series had a therapist on the bridge. Weight gain from thyroid issues, anti depressants, steroids, is a fairly small percent of the population. Mention one thing or person loved by EVERYBODY. The audience is growing due to our amazing loyalty, but I give them credit toobecause Discovery, we have all these new shows. Development for the fifth season of Discovery is well underway, with production expected to begin in June. Also the writers, Erika Lipoldt and Bo Yeon Kim. The Klingon redesign was much more than a visual reboot and especially the tech aspects dont fit canon (holographic communication, Klingon cloaking, android bridge crew, easy terraforming, state-of-the-art nanotech, Enterprise battle squad). If that scene reflects something she regularly incorporates into her real-life, then I think she will be just fine and she can tell the haters to go pound salt. You two are Michaels boyfriend and best friend, so does Michael becoming captain create any new tension in season four? Episodes will be. Though frankly, I find people like her generally seem more aware of their overall health and fitness than people who try to fit others images. The other big issue Ive always had is the graphic nature of violence, this We are TV-MA streaming, so we can do anything attitude I simply hate that. It included a lot of the old characters too like Chakotay, BElanna, Tuvok with a lot of new characters. Where I live people compete on the merits. (Hey, Im likely one of the oldest people here, and its too easy/lazy to remain stuck in the 1960s and 70s! Nah Book is Boba Fett and I want to see the spin-off series THE BOOK OF BOOK :-). But how the women look?! And second of all, just to dig into it, you dont always get to see a woman like me in that sort of position. Especially when there were just so many more qualified people for the job on and off the ship. Barclay was funny and silly but relatable due to his social anxiety. And doesnt that just make the point about the difference between fitness and apparent chunkiness or curveyness. (laughs). Plus, TNG literally had a therapist as part of the bridge crew. Only showing up for briefings when that specialty was needed for that particular situation. Her character of Cadet Tilly in Star Trek Discovery is warm and positive. Along with this, the biggest thing that Michael aided Tilly with was her confidence. And if people are critical of her because her appearance does not meet their expectations, they dont really have a clue of what Star Trek is all about. Tillys anxiety got old real fast. Have you ever read those? Sincerely, obesity is defined in terms of the proportion of body fat associated higher risk of illness. As far as science fiction most Trek shows have normal looking ppl. Sick and tired of T and A being the main focus. I realize there are people who like his quirks. That said, I know people can be cruel and I am even worried bringing up this topic for fear of the idiot fringe piling on, but I hope Mary Wiseman is okay or has a good reason for her weight gain since S1. Yes, I like both Barclay and Tilly. David Ajala: Legit, its still very palpable here. As an actress and a person I dont mind her at all, shes lovely. Mary Wiseman is a good actress but even with that, if Star Trek Discovery was shot in 80s or 90s producers would probably force her to go on a diet or even fire her. Maybe sociological issues? By: TrekMovie.com Staff While Tilly had big dreams in Star Trek: Discovery season 1, she struggled with feelings of inadequacy and was hindered by a social awkwardness that often left her feeling like an outsider. Thats the thing about DSC. Basically a good officer whos been in Starfleet for some years but her career stalled due to emotional and self-esteem issues. I would just be happy if Rhys got more than three lines an episode lol. Season four of Star Trek: Discovery arrives on Thursday, November 18 on Paramount+.

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